The Hate Hidden Behind The Door
The Worst Kind Of Hypocrite - Guilty Of The Same Fervor In Accusing Others Of Having And Causing Wars
Before beginning, I want to make this absolutely clear. I respect anyone who disagrees with Israel if they can put forth a logical, cogent argument. I respect anyone who criticizes Israel for its handling of the 10/7 War. I respect those who do not like the government of Israel or love, hate, or dislike Netanyahu.
I do not respect nor will I accept silently - indeed, it is disgusting when such arguments are put forth from ignorance, lies, false narratives, and a sinister underlying motivation.
Below is my reply to one such article.
In my roamings during the morning hours over some of the notes and comments in Substack, my attention was caught by the following note. I was more than a bit astounded as I read it and then reread it. Not only due to the author,
but also due to the subject matter of the comment. At first, I thought it was said as a cynical remark or just part of a whole other argument until I bothered to click and read the original article by which was, to say the least, quite perturbing in its inaccuracies and reporting.This is the comment:
This is the article by
My first intuition was to leave this be. So I went out for a walk and thought about it. The more I reviewed what the author presented as fact in my mind, the more I realized someone had to counter these absurd statements line by line and try to figure out the motivation behind them.
I felt it was too easy, as some comments stated, to throw out that
was repeating some antisemitic trope. I have seen this author’s comments before and never thought she was of that ilk. There had to be something more to it than that. There just had to be.Let us first deal with the comment:
“Yeah I heard Netanyahu provoked the war because he wants Israel to only have Jews from the river to the sea, basically Jewish religious extremism. I don’t have absolute proof but it sounds overwhelmingly likely to me.”
This is what the comment actually says. That Netanyahu (love him, like him, hate him - it does not matter), a PM of Israel for many years, provoked Hamas to initiate the worst attack on Israel since the Holocaust, is responsible for the murder, rape, dismembering, of over 1200 civilians, and then leads an entire nation into a war - because he secretly is behind “from the river to the sea.”
Wow. Let me get this straight.
Are you proposing that “from the river to the sea” is some Jewish-Zionist-Israeli creation, cooked up in the bowls of some secret meeting and not the original quotation from Osama Bin Laden’s “Letter to America”?
Are you proposing that Netanyahu and “religious extremists,” which we will get to later, are those who are planning some overthrow of current Israel to cleanse Israel of its huge Arab population? And to be precise. I will quote Wikipedia here, which is certainly not in any way a pro-Zionist-Israel source.
73.2% (about 7,208,000 people) are Jews, including about 503,000 living outside the self-defined borders of the State of Israel in the West Bank
21.1% (around 2,080,000 people) are Israeli citizens classified as Arab, some identifying as Palestinian, and including Druze, Circassians, all other Muslims, Christian Arabs, Armenians (which Israel considers "Arab")
An additional 5.7% (roughly 554,000 people) are classified as "others". This diverse group comprises those with Jewish ancestry but not recognized as Jewish by religious law, non-Jewish family members of Jewish immigrants, Christians other than Arabs and Armenians, and residents without a distinct ethnic or religious categorization.1
So assuming every one of those 503,000 people living on the “West Bank,” as you call it, are religious extremists (which I guarantee you the majority of them are not in any way, and some are on the extreme left) that they and Netanyahu provoked this war to get rid of 2,080,000 people?
No sane person can actually portray that as truth. First, you adopt a genocidal statement that was and still is used concerning Jews and Israel as if it is coming from the very people it is aimed at. Then you accuse the religious extremists - whomever they are, and their buddy Netanyahu of causing the war, in which a vast number of said “religious extremists” were summarily murdered and killed?
I am literally scratching my head at the logic here. And if I had not seen the author’s comments before this, in many different areas, I would have immediately written this off as vile anti-Zionist antisemitism.
I still told myself there must be another reason for this foolishness. So, I read the original article.
The article begins with two links to two articles. One is in “The Nation,” and one is from “The Times of Israel.” And they report that Netnahuy propped up the Hamas for years. This is 100% true. There is no argument there, nor has there ever been an argument about “propping up the Hamas.” The question is why it was done and why the entire Israeli security establishment went along with it?
One can take a very narrow view and say that Netanyahu did it to stop all the arguments around his legal troubles. This assumes that Netanyahu had dictatorial powers and could order the entire government, including all the security branches and army, left to right, to do his bidding without saying one word about it. This is not only a narrow view. It is impossible.
Secondly, “propping up Hamas” does not in any way lead to “provoked the war” in any universe. One is a political move, taken from whatever motivations you choose to believe. The second is a heinous and disgusting inference that Netanyahu and some of his supporters planned a war to kill their own people. Are you sane? What Kool-Aid did you drink last night?
So, let us get this out in the open.
The left in Israel wanted peace, almost at any cost. That is the message of the left. Or, more to the point, that was the message from the left until 10/7. They wanted Hamas propped up, and they sure as hell do not support Netanyahu. The right in Israel, tired of the constant wars, wanted peace as well. And to be precise. Hamas was, for the past two years, sending out signals publicly that they were going to behave. That they were not going to do anything crazy. All the while, they were preparing secretly for the 10/7 attack. Don’t believe me? Just scroll through Google. (You sure did that when you picked out a sub-sub-sub-niche website, Eldyrs of Zion, that I can only describe as ludicrous to prove one of your suggestions below. But now I know why you did that, as we will discover below.)
We wanted peace. Or, at the very least, a cessation of hostile activities. We do not want our children, husbands, fathers, brothers, sisters, mothers, friends, and family killed in wars. We never did, and we never will. But peace was an illusion. Peace was a pipe dream. 10/7 put an end to that.
So the first paragraph of the author’s article reads: (the bold is mine)
I’ve withheld making comments on Netanyahu either way because I could only find one source for information and had no guarantee it was accurate. Today I looked into finding the firsthand sources and yes, Netanyahu did fund Hamas to try to play “divide and conquer” and make Israel an all-Jewish territory, which makes Netanyahu really responsible for October 7th and all the things Hamas did.
Yes, we did; all of Israel, not only Netanyahu, propped up the Hamas. Agreed. But then the author makes this leap of logic, which is astounding - read the text in bold.
The reason that this was done was to make Israel into all Jewish territory. That is some leap. Not to put off war. Not to put off more killing. Not in the hope of some peace on our borders. But to “make Israel into all-Jewish territory.” Where did you pull that from? What depth of knowledge did your brain cells delve into to make that leap?
Then it gets worse. Hamas is no longer responsible for 10/7. Hamas are the poor victims here. Who is responsible for the murder, rape, and dismembering of Jews? And the hostages? The 132 that are still in captivity. Who really did it? Netanyahu, of course! Hamas were his puppets. He is actually giving orders to Sinwar.
are you for real?I still wanted to give the author the benefit of the doubt, though my instincts were going swiftly to the simple answer: yes, this is just pure anti-Israel antisemitic trope covered in leaps of logic that only a drunk person could make.
So, let us move on to the second paragraph of this piece.
The reason Palestinians aren’t taken as refugees even by other Arab countries is because they’re all allied with Israel, so if you don’t like Saudi Arabia in addition to not liking Hamas, you should also not like Netanyahu, who most Israelis blame for October 7th anyway. The reason the Palestinians kept turning down two-state solutions is also most likely because the Israeli governments have been doing the same thing for decades, it’s just only blown up now. So much for the idea that there are brilliant Zionist conspiracies. There are only really dumb Zionist conspiracies.
Are you serious? So now, let me get this straight. All the Arab states are allied with Israel. And since Israel can dictate to the Arab States what, when, and how to do things, the Arab states will not take in Palestinians. Silly me. I thought it was because they knew their regimes would be in trouble the second they did allow the Gazans and Hamas into their midst. Jordan had it happen to them with “Black September.” Egypt knows precisely what happens when radicals take over. Remember Sadat? The one who orchestrated the Yom Kippur War, then made peace, and then was summarily assassinated? Remember him?
Hizbollah in Lebanon loves Israel. The Palestinian authority loves Israel. The Houthis in Yemen love Israel. Syria loves Israel. Iran loves Israel. All of them, including Egypt, Jordan, Saudia Arabia, Qatar, Bahrain, and the rest of them, take orders from Israel. They all do Israel’s bidding without hesitation.
That is a remark that does not deserve a detailed answer. Indeed, I have never seen such a thing in print. I do not know whether to laugh at you or cry for you. This is so outlandish that, of course, it could only lead to a “Zionist conspiracy.”
I almost gave up at this point. I am glad I didn't because, as my instincts told me, there had to be some underlying reason for this absolutely idiotic dribble. There just had to be. And little by little, it was revealed in the third paragraph.
I support Israel’s right to exist. I support ideally a two-state solution at this point, but I also think that will never happen because the very most extremist believers in Rabbinic Judaism think they have to own all of the land of Israel and get the Jewish Messiah to show up (though the ultra-Orthodox Hasidic Jews believe Israel should only be a state after their Messiah shows up) while the most radical Islamists believe that they have to kill all of the Jews to get the Muslim Messiah to show up.
So now, the reason that peace will never happen is in the hands of religious Jews and radical Islamists. It is all about the Messiah. My ears perked up as my eyebrows arched. You see, many, long years ago, I taught Judaism and Christianity at university. My inner lexicon is attuned to keywords. “Ahh,” I said to myself, “she has no clue about Hasidic Judaism nor the Rabbinic Jewish beliefs, nor even Islam and the Messiah concept, but the term “Messiah” suddenly appears. Now I know where this is going.” And sure enough:
Wanting people to live in peace is really a Christian perspective and these people mostly aren’t Christian. In fact if you convert to Christianity you’re legally not Jewish in Israel even if you’re ethnically Jewish, so much for the entire reason the British Empire founded Israel to begin with. You can even see an Israeli protestor associating Netanyahu with a cross in the image above, as if Jesus were some kind of warmonger and the cross weren’t a symbol of humility, that’s how much a lot of Israelis are against Christianity. However, it does make it make more sense why the Christians in the Holy Land often align themselves with the Muslims, because the extremists Jews are trying to exterminate or expel anyone who isn’t Jewish from Israel, while the extremist Muslims don’t particularly like Christians but are mostly just Antisemitic.
I seriously am going to try to answer this civilly. But I tend to doubt I can hold myself back.
Let us start with some simple facts.
Neither Jews nor Muslims believe in Jesus, both in different manners.
Jews do not believe Jesus was the Messiah. Jews do not believe Jesus died for our sins. And Jews do not believe in the NT.
That is why Jews are Jews, Muslims are Muslims, and Christians are Christians. Which is kind of a fundamental distinction, don’t you think?
Where, where, and how on God’s given earth did Jesus become a factor in this discussion? What leap of logic was made here?
“Ethnically Jewish” - please define the term. And since Jews do not believe as Christians do, it is logical that if one converts to Christianity, they are no longer considered Jewish.
Or should we reveal your hidden motivation here?
Because there is a hidden motivation here, isn’t there?
You are not only putting forth arguments that are beyond any modicum of logic or based on reality, but your real motivation here is that Jews have not accepted your extraordinary Christian values. You are angry that we all have not converted and bent the knee. You are frustrated that we don’t recognize the cross as a symbol of the Jewish religion.
So that was your motivation. And you hid it behind some antisemitic, anti-Israel trope. If the reader needs more proof of this, go to the article and read the diatribe about King Solomon in the final two paragraphs after the above paragraph. I do not want to get into that as it is so full of historical inaccuracies that it would take hours to explain.
The point of the author is simple. We are all animals and beasts because we are not Christian. If we had been Christian, none of this would have happened because no one in history was ever killed in the name of Jesus. No one was ever murdered because they did not believe in Jesus. Western civilization must be based on Christian values, and we all must bend the knee.
Is that what bothers you? That Israel is not based on Christian values? That Israel does not accept “messianic Jews” because they believe in Jesus? Is this your motivation? Is this really your gripe that leads you to blame Israel for what happened on 10/7? Is this how you justify such heinous acts to yourself? Because Jews and Israel do not accept your belief system?
In 5 paragraphs, the author,
went from blaming Netanyahu for 10/7, and then all the religious extremists for perpetrating the acts of 10/7, and secretly creating a cabal to which every Arab state bends its will to that of Israel, to berating Israel for not being Christian. Let us not forget the real kicker. “From the river to the sea” is a Zionist conspiratorial invention. It has nothing to do with a call for genocide on the part of Palestinians or Hamas.I have to hand it to you
. That is some feat of such mishkabobbled spaghetti-brained logic that it is hard to imagine what caused you to write it and, worse, believe what you wrote made any modicum of sense.Yes, I am disgusted. Not with the author so much but with myself. I tend to forget the hate hidden behind the door. I choose to ignore it. But this time, it reared its ugly face in a manner that was so convoluted, so full of lies and impossible leaps of logic, that something had to be said.
So, the next time one wants to convert Jews, say so. Be upfront. Then, I can answer with quotes from the NT and OT and have a theological argument.
And if one wants to present a cogent argument about the 10/7 war, be my guest. Just don’t hide your motivations behind some other purpose. Be honest about what is motivating you.
The real problem here is the fervor of religion that others accuse the “religious extremists” in Israel of having and their Messianic beliefs, which are clearly misunderstood by many - that very fervor is what motivated articles such as the one the above-mentioned author wrote.
Those who write such pieces from hidden proselytizing motivations are guilty of the same fervor with which they glibly accuse others of having and causing wars.
And that makes them the worst kind of hypocrites.
It leaves me shaking my head in disgust at the hate hidden behind the door.
Demographics of Israel. (2024, January 14). In Wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Israel
Wow thank you. These ideas are fucking odious. If Bibi didn’t exist these freaks and liars would invent him. The diabolical Jew! Blame everything on him. It’s so idiotic on the surface even. He will now go down in Jewish history as the guy who was asleep at the wheel while Israel was invaded by barbarians.
Honestly, I've seen a lot of similar writings from other Substackers. There's a huge impulse from people across the political spectrum to see a Hidden Hand behind every event.
To me 7 October looks like Israel relied too much on its technology and was blindsided by a very well-planned quick and dirty 4GW-style hit-and-run attack. But many are convinced that the Elders of Israel encouraged Hamas to attack as part of a calculated plan for Gaza Genocide. Personally, I try not to attribute to malice what can be explained by carelessness and overconfidence.